I guess the publicly expressed statements of Paul VI to the effect that V2 was a disaster (my reading) because Satan had found a home in the Church must not be on the papal teaching grid, because nobody seems take these words of the Vicar of Christ (assuming…) seriously, if they are aware of them at all.
I wonder if doing so would help bring clarity to our understanding of the present state of the Church and our duties in that regard. I wonder if a review of the Council might be deemed prudent in light Paul VI's on-the-record evaluation of its results.
Sorry, to say this, Peter, but your argument begins with a true distinction—not every papal statement is infallible—and uses it to conceal the real problem.
Sixty years of systematic revolution in doctrine, worship, discipline, and government cannot be reduced to a few fallible papal mistakes. Nor does widespread recognition create a lawful pope; it can only recognize one whose title is already valid.
And none of this answers the decisive question: by what demonstrable papal mandate do today’s traditionalist bishops and priests possess apostolic mission?
Limiting infallibility does not manufacture jurisdiction. You should already know that.
This is an excellent commentary and understanding of true obedience. Thank you so very much.
I guess the publicly expressed statements of Paul VI to the effect that V2 was a disaster (my reading) because Satan had found a home in the Church must not be on the papal teaching grid, because nobody seems take these words of the Vicar of Christ (assuming…) seriously, if they are aware of them at all.
I wonder if doing so would help bring clarity to our understanding of the present state of the Church and our duties in that regard. I wonder if a review of the Council might be deemed prudent in light Paul VI's on-the-record evaluation of its results.
Sorry, to say this, Peter, but your argument begins with a true distinction—not every papal statement is infallible—and uses it to conceal the real problem.
Sixty years of systematic revolution in doctrine, worship, discipline, and government cannot be reduced to a few fallible papal mistakes. Nor does widespread recognition create a lawful pope; it can only recognize one whose title is already valid.
And none of this answers the decisive question: by what demonstrable papal mandate do today’s traditionalist bishops and priests possess apostolic mission?
Limiting infallibility does not manufacture jurisdiction. You should already know that.