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James's avatar

Your conversation with Larry Chapp and Joshua Charles at Eternal Christendom was extraordinary. There are many individuals on both sides of the Catholic coin who could profit immensely from such a well informed exchange.

I thought to myself, finally, I am not crazy.

A native of the Diocese of Paterson back then, about twenty years before you arrived on earth, I know from whence you come...quite familiar with your youthful backyard. I could go on forever, but the two of you brought me back to the the mass for the First Sunday of Advent in 1964 at Morristown's Church of the Assumption ... the first time we saw a "table altar," responses in English [albeit with the text of the 1962 missal if I'm not mistaken], the first time with the "kiss of peace" with narrated instructions on how to exchange it with your neighbor and the looks of horror on the faces of the congregation. It remains clear as day -- and I was fourteen.

We live in "interesting" times.

Lord, come to our assistance. Make haste to help us.

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Thank you, Peter. Lots to check out. As for language, it has been something emblematic in British speech to under-emphasise the most wretched things (“When enemy gunfire took out our petrol tank, I thought, crikey, might not make it back for mum’s birthday, poor old girl;” or “That Bataan stroll was a spot of bother”) and exaggerate the small stuff (“We were simply gasping for our tea”). Besides being delightful and polite (with strongly-telegraphed ideas) it totally engages the listener to imagine one’s real thoughts and experiences. When folks devolve to the same [three] vulgar words for everything, it’s not only violent on the ears but insulting and tedious. Moral rot indeed.

I’m enjoying Pelican+ but do miss engaging with other readers in the comments. The Forum seems oddly misnamed.

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