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Greg Cook's avatar

Dr. K: I know it is a lot of work to record the voice versions of these, but it is much-appreciated. there are times when I need to be doing something else (such as washing he dishes) and/or my brain is at capacity for reading. So thank you for this valuable service.

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Chantal LaFortune's avatar

How fascinating it is to hear of the countries with admirably Catholic principles. And how delightful it is to read Fr. Crean’s work in the midst of a semester studying under his instruction!

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EtVerbumCaroFactumEst's avatar

Such an enlightening article! The 3x3 breakdown with examples does a great job of making a very complex topic easily understandable, and the connection with the nine choirs of angels is genius.

Indeed, this post is just begging for someone to make a graphic/diagram to visually represent the nine levels...

Also, Fr. Crean writes: "Above this, and hence at the very middle point of our ninefold schema come those societies that recognise the existence of God, but are neutral about all else." Would it be fair to say that the United States belongs to this fifth choir? Is it justified to look beyond a country's constitution (e.g., to our national motto, "In God We Trust") when doing the classification? After all, what is officially written into a country's founding documents may differ substantially--for better or for worse--from the actual customs of its people.

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Peter Kwasniewski's avatar

I agree, Fr. Thomas did a marvelous job!

I do believe he would classify the USA, as a regime, in the fifth choir.

After all, the analysis here is of the official account of the relationship according to the governing charter(s).

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