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Peter Kwasniewski's avatar

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What if someone made the objection:

"Obedience is the surest way to sanctity, as is demonstrated through the Saints time and again. We have no other choice than to trust Mother Church. One can not separate themselves from the Pope and Magisterium without risking danger in our personal lives."

I would say, fair enough, this is true as long as Mother Church is the one really at work, and not renegade churchmen; as long as the Pope is teaching and practicing the Faith; as long as the Magisterium is in fact coherent with perennial doctrine and sound discipline.

Let's not forget that the "obedience above all things" mentality has been a major instrument in the dissolution of Catholic tradition and the sex abuse crisis. I am someone who tries to see things from all points of view, without committing myself definitively in any one direction. I like to say that I view the diocesan TLMs, the Society, the independents, and the Ecclesia Dei communities as being like Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. All are needed to win through to victory.

I view the rupture with Catholic tradition after Vatican II to be a metaphysical wound in the Church that must be healed if the Church is ever to flourish again. Moreover, I view the loss of it as a sharp and profound loss for the spiritual lives of all the faithful. Therefore, I regard the retention of the TLM as a life-and-death matter, as something more important than obedience to those who would crush it or who would treat the faithful attached to it as second-class citizens. And just as a homeowner can use lethal force against an intruder breaking in, though he couldn't do that in any ordinary situation, so I believe that there are times when bold steps need to be taken against those who are violating our rights and duties as Catholics.

It's clear that all of us agree about this to one degree or another, or else why would we ever bother having any attachment to an old rite that Pope Paul VI made very clear should be discontinued? The traditionalist movement exists only because it disagrees with the prudential judgments of several popes in a row.

Legal positivism is no way to live a coherent Catholic life, since it would mean putting on and putting off our practices like garments, depending on who happens to be in office. No sane person had ever thought or acted that way prior to Vatican II, but now it seems to be taken as a virtue. This is the mess that has to be cleaned up, and I pray that future popes and bishops will be equal to the task. They sure aren't right now.

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Chantal LaFortune's avatar

May God protect the FSSP, ICKSP, and IBP. All three orders are doing so much to preserve the Faith throughout the world. The two IBP priests in North America are so kind and genuinely happy to bring the Faith to those around them. Cardinals in Rome are so far removed from this kind and joyful grassroots ministry; how could they possibly make just pastoral decisions regarding any of these orders. I pray that the Ecclesia Dei orders may be permitted to continue to offer only the Mass of the Ages, for they are truly the lifeline of the Church and her faithful.

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