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Laurence Gonzaga's avatar

I saw the concerns of this piece first hand a couple of years ago when I attended a conference advertising a TLM Mass offered by Bishop Strickland. At that time, Bishop Strickland was not comfortable with the TLM ceremonials yet so he declined to do the TLM even with the guidance of the well-trained servers and MC. The organizers panicked but thought of a compromise to offer a Latin TLM. The choir of course was set to chant the TLM propers. Which they did. When I heard about this before mass began, I knew it was going to be a disaster. And a disaster it was. Neither the NO nor the TLM was honored that day. There were no congregational responses because there was no Latin text in front of them to respond. No handouts. No congregational singing even for the common Latin that you sometimes hear in the NO. Nothing. A thousand Catholics confused as to what was going on. Smh. B16 probably had good intentions to equate the EF and the OF by using those terms, and when SP came out it was frustrating because Gamber made such a good case for both Rites to be treated separately. I think B16 had psychological and sociological reasons for equating the rites, maybe to avoid the concerns of retrograde liturgy from the mainstream.

Tldr: for the traditionalist, a Latin NO is definitely not a solution, it's an insult, and exposing the liturgical ignorance of the one proposing such a solution.

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Granny62's avatar

I attended Mass in the Detroit Archdiocese two Sundays ago, a church I had attended many times before. The Pastor had offered the TLM previous to the banning by the Archbishop, so he is offering the NO Mass in Latin. 1) He celebrated ad Orientem aka vs Deum

2) He did his preparation prayers at the altar.

Following this the Liturgy of the Word celebrated 100% in Latin, Gregorian Chant etc. The readings were repeated at the end of this in English followed by a very brief Homily.

Everything following was in Latin. Communion was received at the Communion rail, on the tongue.

Afterwards, we spoke to Father. In the course of the conversation, we learned that his superior wouldn’t grant permission for him even to do this, but he had done his homework. Every jot and tittle was faithful to Sacrosanctum Conciliium and to the GIRM. So he appealed to the Vatican and was given permission.

He sees this as a way to remain obedient but still try to serve his flock. Interestingly, it wasn’t nearly as full as the TLM.

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