Now that’s a bold statement. To say the Eastern Rites lacks the grandeur of the Roman is mad. Seems like you would have preferred that they never existed. Clearly it is willed by God by the fact that it thrived through the centuries.
“The Churches of the East are worthy of the glory and reverence that they hold throughout the whole of Chr…
Now that’s a bold statement. To say the Eastern Rites lacks the grandeur of the Roman is mad. Seems like you would have preferred that they never existed. Clearly it is willed by God by the fact that it thrived through the centuries.
“The Churches of the East are worthy of the glory and reverence that they hold throughout the whole of Christendom in virtue of those extremely ancient, singular memorials that they have bequeathed to us.”
Orientalium Dignitas, Leo XIII. You should read the rest of it to know the mind of the Church on this matter.
Or are you going to say that Leo XIII is a modernist because he doesn’t agree with you?
Whether Leo XIII was a modernist is a lively matter of dispute. Unlike Pius IX or Pius X, I have no evidence he was enrolled in a Masonic Lodge, so I will give him that. As you know, Leo XIII had the Byzantine Blessing of the EPiphany Water adapted to the Roman Rite, which I attended many times while at the SSPX. But none of the negates the experience I have had with the TRADITIONAL Eastern Rites (The reformed ones are basically the Bogus Ordo with Icons.) But even when said in Classical Greek or the Old Slavonic (a language, interestingly enough, that the Holy Ghost "killed") one does feel as though transported back in time to the rustic villages of the Ukraine, or the hills of Romania, where the people are getting ready to tend flocks or harvest grain.
Now don't misunderstand me at all. I have a great respect for the Mystery which goes on behind the Iconostasis, and I think the Roman Rite could profit immensely by the return of Gothic Roodscreens, which were very similar. The Mysteries of Our Faith should evoke tremulous fear, something lost with the casual celebration of the Roman Missal, especially that aberrition given the moniker "Low Mass" which was an accommodation to Protestant conditions, and should never have become the norm, except for private Masses on side altars.
Had the Roman Rite retained its venerable traditions, all this talk about the Bogus Ordo Happy Meal would have been well nigh impossible. The Italian Grandmothers would have been calling for the drawing and quartering of any priest or prelate unhappily "celebrating" the Abomination of Desolation in their presence.
So no it was never my intention to belittle the venerable liturgy of St John. It shows that our church is indeed Apostolic and also that the Pope would do an act of insufferable in intolerable violence to Holy Mother Church were he to suggest the complete abolition of the Eastern Rites, an act which would be rightly resisted by the Faithful as harmful to souls and an affront to the mystery and majesty of the Thrice Holy Godhead.
I look forward to East and West being united again, so that Holy Mother Church might breathe with both lungs, so to speak. In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
Now that’s a bold statement. To say the Eastern Rites lacks the grandeur of the Roman is mad. Seems like you would have preferred that they never existed. Clearly it is willed by God by the fact that it thrived through the centuries.
“The Churches of the East are worthy of the glory and reverence that they hold throughout the whole of Christendom in virtue of those extremely ancient, singular memorials that they have bequeathed to us.”
Orientalium Dignitas, Leo XIII. You should read the rest of it to know the mind of the Church on this matter.
Or are you going to say that Leo XIII is a modernist because he doesn’t agree with you?
Whether Leo XIII was a modernist is a lively matter of dispute. Unlike Pius IX or Pius X, I have no evidence he was enrolled in a Masonic Lodge, so I will give him that. As you know, Leo XIII had the Byzantine Blessing of the EPiphany Water adapted to the Roman Rite, which I attended many times while at the SSPX. But none of the negates the experience I have had with the TRADITIONAL Eastern Rites (The reformed ones are basically the Bogus Ordo with Icons.) But even when said in Classical Greek or the Old Slavonic (a language, interestingly enough, that the Holy Ghost "killed") one does feel as though transported back in time to the rustic villages of the Ukraine, or the hills of Romania, where the people are getting ready to tend flocks or harvest grain.
Now don't misunderstand me at all. I have a great respect for the Mystery which goes on behind the Iconostasis, and I think the Roman Rite could profit immensely by the return of Gothic Roodscreens, which were very similar. The Mysteries of Our Faith should evoke tremulous fear, something lost with the casual celebration of the Roman Missal, especially that aberrition given the moniker "Low Mass" which was an accommodation to Protestant conditions, and should never have become the norm, except for private Masses on side altars.
Had the Roman Rite retained its venerable traditions, all this talk about the Bogus Ordo Happy Meal would have been well nigh impossible. The Italian Grandmothers would have been calling for the drawing and quartering of any priest or prelate unhappily "celebrating" the Abomination of Desolation in their presence.
So no it was never my intention to belittle the venerable liturgy of St John. It shows that our church is indeed Apostolic and also that the Pope would do an act of insufferable in intolerable violence to Holy Mother Church were he to suggest the complete abolition of the Eastern Rites, an act which would be rightly resisted by the Faithful as harmful to souls and an affront to the mystery and majesty of the Thrice Holy Godhead.
Well said, Wolf.
I look forward to East and West being united again, so that Holy Mother Church might breathe with both lungs, so to speak. In the Holy Hearts of Jesus and Mary.